I'm wondering, when doing 3 centuries of family history in northwest Pilsen area, why my lines didn't move out of a 10 mile radius. Would you please shed some light on this?
Hi, it is easy. Most of the pleople were serfs until the serfdom was abbolished in 1781 and could not move from the estate without the landlords approval. And until the 1848 reforms they were still bonded to the landlord's land.
There were around 1400 estates, sometimes tens were owned by the same nobleman/noblewoman. There is map of some of them online http://gis.fsv.cvut.cz/student/panstvi As for the confiscations, not only by king/emperor but land was confiscated by catholic noblemen in a big way.
Hi, In its main role as part of state control it ceased to exist in 1850 with introdution of reforms that created districs that took over from estates. And estates continued as large land owners = big farms and in that role it ended after WW1 during 1st land reform in 1919.
I enjoy your blog and was registered to attend the last conference, but unfortunately, I had a family emergency and had to cancel the trip. I am interested in finding an estate map for Zdechov/Hovezi if one exists. I checked out the link shared above and have no clue what I am looking at. If a map is available, I am willing to pay a fee for someone to help me acquire one. Is this a service you provide or do you know someone who does? Debbie from Texas
This is great! As I review the old Czech Parish records, the estate is always noted. This has brought a few questions to my mind. (1) is there anywhere where I can find a map of the estates. I wonder if the pre-1790 marriages were driven by estate geography, and (2) were there differences in how estates were managed if they were owned by the king, nobility, church, or a royal town? I have instance of royal town vs. nobility as owners.
Thank you for the incredible amount of historical information. If possible, please refer me to a quality professional genealogist. My family is from the Haberles/Ovesne area and I think there are some that come from Cesky Krumlov. Thanks and stay safe.
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ReplyDeleteI'm wondering, when doing 3 centuries of family history in northwest Pilsen area, why my lines didn't move out of a 10 mile radius. Would you please shed some light on this?
ReplyDeleteHi, it is easy. Most of the pleople were serfs until the serfdom was abbolished in 1781 and could not move from the estate without the landlords approval. And until the 1848 reforms they were still bonded to the landlord's land.
DeleteThere were around 1400 estates, sometimes tens were owned by the same nobleman/noblewoman. There is map of some of them online http://gis.fsv.cvut.cz/student/panstvi
ReplyDeleteAs for the confiscations, not only by king/emperor but land was confiscated by catholic noblemen in a big way.
Did the estate system cease to exist following World War I?
ReplyDeleteHi, In its main role as part of state control it ceased to exist in 1850 with introdution of reforms that created districs that took over from estates. And estates continued as large land owners = big farms and in that role it ended after WW1 during 1st land reform in 1919.
DeleteI enjoy your blog and was registered to attend the last conference, but unfortunately, I had a family emergency and had to cancel the trip. I am interested in finding an estate map for Zdechov/Hovezi if one exists. I checked out the link shared above and have no clue what I am looking at. If a map is available, I am willing to pay a fee for someone to help me acquire one. Is this a service you provide or do you know someone who does? Debbie from Texas
ReplyDeleteThis is great! As I review the old Czech Parish records, the estate is always noted. This has brought a few questions to my mind. (1) is there anywhere where I can find a map of the estates. I wonder if the pre-1790 marriages were driven by estate geography, and (2) were there differences in how estates were managed if they were owned by the king, nobility, church, or a royal town? I have instance of royal town vs. nobility as owners.
ReplyDeletePopis Králowstwí českého čili, Podrobné poznamenání lists villages and their estates. https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_TbcDAAAAYAAJ/page/n5
ReplyDeleteThank you very much Judi for that cite. I had been hoping to find something like that. It is very useful.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the incredible amount of historical information. If possible, please refer me to a quality professional genealogist. My family is from the Haberles/Ovesne area and I think there are some that come from Cesky Krumlov. Thanks and stay safe.
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